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- From: Josh Olaf <info@cydonia.org>
- Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.ufo.reports
- Subject: Re: Faces on Mars
- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:43:14 -0700
- Organization: http://www.cydonia.org/
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- Jim Rogers wrote:
- >
- > Josh Olaf wrote:
- > > Jim Rogers wrote:
- > > > Josh Olaf wrote:
- > > > > Maury Markowitz wrote:
- > ....
- > > > > > Let alone the fact that they did leave one other carving, Kermit the
- > > > > > Frog. Yes, Kermit, as discovered by the Viking missions.
- > > > >
- > > > > Since you know so much about these Viking missions, please provide the frame number
- > > > > of your Kermit the Frog image. We have yet to see an unedited version of this
- > > > > photograph.
- > > >
- > > > That *is* an "unedited version." I don't (yet) have a frame number, but
- > > > one of us here is bound to dig it up sooner or later. For the moment,
- > > > can you work from the assumption that the image of Kermit is genuine?
- > >
- > > No, only because I have seen the unedited frames and there is no
- > > possible way the original frame could have been cropped to just show
- > > Kermit swinging on his branch. The point is, if the entire frame
- > > is posted, or a frame number given so that I can access it myself,
- > > then I'm almost certain that the photo will be proved worthless because
- > > we will get to see Kermit in relation to the surrounding background, which
- > > will more than likely contain the same textures and terrain features.
- >
- > Of course it will. Browse all around the "Alba Patera" region and you'll see
- > that Kermit is "just" a lava flow. The point is that the lava flow *really
- > does* look like Kermit sitting on a branch. So it was cropped. So what? The
- > "face" frame was cropped and zoomed-in on to show the face. So what?
-
-
- False. The "face" frame was posted in it's FULL frame orginal format
- to the net less than 2 hours ago. For those who missed it, go to:
-
- http://www.cydonia.org/images/0357A.jpg
-
-
- >
- > > This "edited" appearance is opposed to the full-frame Cydonia surface
- > > photos, which maintain a consistent "look" throughout multiple frames
- > > and sun angles, and which have been tested and analyzed by a number of
- > > researchers, including Mark J. Carlotto.
- >
- > I have no idea what distinction you're trying to draw here. When *I* look
- > at the Cydonia plain, I see several hills scattered about with a pyramidal
- > shape that have large-scale similarities to the "face" hill (minus the
- > strategic indentations, that is). The "face" is in a region of similarly-
- > shaped hills, much like "Kermit" is in a region of similarly-shaped lava
- > flow patterns (ignoring detail that evokes the illusion in both cases).
- >
- > Jim
-
- The distinction is quite clear. The cropped photo of the Alba Patera region
- was posted by Michael Edelman. This photo is neither the full photo, nor the
- original Viking photo, (like the one I posted) therefore, Edelman has knowingly
- misled those who would otherwise not know that the Kermit photo was just
- a cropped photograph of a lava flow. The so-called "skeptics" (not you!) are
- unable to post either a frame number, a web site, or ANY piece of evidence
- which would give one the ability to COMPARE the two photographs.
-
- It would be nice if the so-called skeptics used the scientific method they
- love to talk about so much.
-
- Josh
-